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Post by Mech on Jan 2, 2004 14:11:48 GMT -5
Some of Mech's suggestions from a previous website.... I keep 2 small suitcases I call "boogie packs" in my house for an immediate getaway in the event of a major event. Together they can fit all of their contents into a frame pack. In one I have 20 days of food, 20 energy bars, a first aid kit and medicine, a solar blanket, extra clothes, toiletries, a smll fishing kit, 8 inch knife, 2 lighters, small ball of string, a compressible insulated jacket, hat, a sierra zip cookstove, compass, several candles, flashlight, leatherman tool,scrub brush (multipurpose), and a few hand tools. The other contains a 5.lb 4 season small tent, sleeping bag, ground cover, rain tarp, portable hancrank/solar shortwave radio, several plastic trash bags and several ziplock type bags, duct tape, portable water filter,iodine tablets, rain poncho, surgical tubing, writing materials, 3 pencils, and a small bottle of disinfectant. I keep these close by so I can just throw them in the trunk along with my pack if there is ever the possibility my city is subject to attack or some type of martial law situation. If that happens...you only have about an hour before everything is locked down. But in the home..make sure you guys have some type of portable stove with at least 2 weeks worth of fuel. The best types are white gas/dual burner in my opinion.Just don't use them indoors. Lots of candles and/or oil lamps and flashlights. Unspoilable food too. I recommend the following books...... Tom Browns Field guide to Wilderness Survival...... www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0425105725/qid=1061141214/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/102-2947029-4260169?v=glance&s=booksHow to stay alive in the woods..by Bradford Angier www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1579122213/qid=1061141558/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/102-2947029-4260169The BEST non-electric portable/home water filter on the market.... www.berkeyfilters.com/index.html
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Post by Mech on Jan 2, 2004 14:13:23 GMT -5
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Post by Mech on Jan 2, 2004 14:14:32 GMT -5
For those of you trying to find a Civil defense era quality radiation geiger counter. 59 bucks! Ive seen this same unit for 250 dollars in a science store outlet. www.m2ktalk.com/radiation_geiger_counter.htm** Another Tip. White gas cooking stoves are far superior to propane style stove because you can also use gasoline in them as a fuel in a pinch. just be careful because gasoline has a higher flash point. Ive had an MSR whisperlite for over 11 years and it has never failed. www.notesfromtheroad.com/outdoor/cook/cookware_stoves.htmAlso..consider one of these things. A battery powered/wood burning portable stove. www.zzstove.com/sierra.htmlI have one that I plan on adapting a small solar panel to power the fan instead of the battery. The stove is awesome and you can use twigs and wood scrap for cooking..it heats like a blacksmiths forge! The advantage of the Sierra zip stove is obviously you don't have to worry about finding fuel...you just use wood or scrap. I think they also make a larger/heavier family size battery/wood stove called the eagle..but have no experience with that one.
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Post by Mech on Jan 2, 2004 14:15:13 GMT -5
Places where i have found cheap survival gear......
**Army surplus stores **Salvation Army/thrift stores. **K-Mart **Used sporting goods stores
Like...Wool blankets/clothes, rain gear, winter gear, backpacks, camp supplies,tarps, canteens,flashlights..sleeping gear..you name it.
Believe it or not...there are certain items on your list you can find for cheap if you look around for them.
Obviously the more cheap you can get things...the more items you can get.
ALSO...consider if the gear you need will be more of a burden than its worth if you have to go MOBILE.
Sometimes packing light is the way to go...as the situation calls for of course.
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Post by Mech on Jan 2, 2004 14:16:09 GMT -5
Clothing in a survival situation.
Cotton-- good only in the summer as it is comfortable and breathable..however when wet it takes too long to dry and if the weather dips below 40 degrees F and the wind picks up...you may subject yourself to hypothermia and could in effect die.Also...a pair of jeans will TRIPLE in weight when wet...taking more energy from your body. Blends with cotton should also be avoided.
Wool-- exellent quality fabric...and quiet in the woods. Even better when blended with poly propylyne.Wool will keep you warm..even when wet. Can actually be a lifesaver on cold/wet days.Pack a wool sweater and hat in every survival kit you own.Disdvantages? scratchy to some and mostly expensive.Takes long to dry.
Polypropylene--layering fabric.Manmade fabric that is lightweight, breathable and also keeps you warm when wet. Unlike wool, it is quick to dry. Used in the newer "long johns" and socks and underwear. Disadvantages...retains odors and can't be machine dried. Must be hung up.
Nylon--The best fabric all around for outer garnments. Dries quickly, lightweight, doesnt chaffe, and actually prevents mosquito bites (due to the dense fabric).Great in tropical environments. Disadvantages.. Noisy. Must have an insulating garment layer as well in winter.
Polartech-- Great as either layering garment or outer. Must also be line dried. Maintains warmth when wet. Lightweight.Made with recycled plastic soda bottles. Disadvantage.Too warm to walk in in warm weather
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Post by Mech on Jan 2, 2004 14:18:37 GMT -5
Rain Gear
Probably more important than most people think.
When its all steamy and hot outside...rain gear is more of a nusiance than anything..but when the temperature dips...wet clothing can lower your body temperature to the danger point. Your greatest risk of hypothermia comes when you least expect it. It doesn't even have to be freezing for you to get Hypothermia. I've heard of hikers dying because they ignored their wet clothes on a 40 degree day in the rain.
Gore Tex-- Most either swear by it or curse it. Waterproof and breathable...the only drawback being price.
Coated Nylon-- Doesnt keep you as cool as Gore tex...it is less expensive. The seams usually have to be sealed with seam sealer. Ideal for cooler weather but not a good idea for warmer climates.Good for those on a budget.
Vinyl-- Unbearably hot and sweaty in warm weather. Will still make you sweat in cooler weather and may give you a "chilling effect". Heavy Material makes it difficult to walk in. Probably best used for around the house...not on trips. Cheap.Easily obtainable.
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Post by Mech on Jan 2, 2004 14:21:10 GMT -5
This is a must for the City Dweller. It is THE bible on urban survival. Tom Browns field guide to City and Suburban survival. www.penguinputnam.com/Book/BookDisplay/0,1008,0425091724,00.html Topics include...... * Alternative heat and light sources * Preventing and coping with electrical failure * Automobile survival techniques * Protecting your home from intruders * Unconventional food sources for the city dweller * Surviving earthquakes, floods, blizzards, hurricanes, and more * Guarding against urban crime * Storing and finding food * Foraging for wild edibles * Types of emergency shelters Toms emergency list www.trackerschool.com/emergency1.php3
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